Ask Adam Savage: Savage Builds Wheel of Death Re-Do and Unrealized Ideas
If Adam could revisit the Savage Builds wheel of death episode with unlimited time and money, what would he do differently? What ideas did he have for the series that he never pursued? In this excerpt from our Jan. 26 live stream, Adam answers questions from Tested members Jon Hesse and C2 Lawson, whom we thank for their support and questions! Join this channel to support Tested and get access to perks, like asking Adam a question: fiworld.info/tools/iDJtJKMICpb9B1qf7qjEOA.htmljoin
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Hey Adam have you ever been to Hamburg in Germany? If yes hvae you visited the Miniatur Wunderland (literal translation: miniature wonderland)?
FYI the Samaritan wouldn't work, safely, because the chambers do not wrap the entire shell casing. It would explode out the back and injure the operator.
A channel or show entirely based around the idea of attempting to make movie weapons and test their viability.
Video idea make the NASA made knide/machete that was actually flown in multiple missions
Pls next video make axel vehicle from twisted metal.Also your works are awesome kepp it doing it man :D
Maybe instead of using a brake, use something more akin to a clutch?
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I love this weapon, mainly because of the Dad's Army episode where they have one...and it escapes while being tested :P
I hadn't discovered Savage Builds till recently, watched the Panjandrum episode today. The first thing that bothers me about the flywheel drive is that the device is at maximum kinetic energy coming off the platform, and then it's coasting till it stops. In the episode Adam discusses asymmetric rocket thrust, then looks to remove the rockets. My first thought is to remove the asymmetry. Why not add a third wheel on centerline, perhaps a little smaller diameter and mount the rockets on the OD of the centerline wheel. Misfiring rockets shouldn't produce any left / right torque.
those demerit badges are taunting me.
Have you ever considered crowd funding a second season or spiritual successor to Savage Builds?
Savage Builds is to the Mythbusters......... As Curb Your Enthusiasm is to Seinfeld.
ooh good luck with the show! I can't imagine paying for a streaming service for the price they charge but I still want this stuff to exist. let's hope the system finds a new and more favorable equilibrium That flywheel idea is brilliant!! why've I never thought of that?
That is a horribly small casing for that size bullet for gun powder....but....how about nitroglycerin? LOL
Why not both? Rockets and flywheels? Rockets as JATO with flywheels acting as power and gyroscopes to hold on course?
Sounds to me that the wheels of can be used as the fly wheels and the Earth as the braking system. So suspend it spin it up and drop it on the ground.
The PAW 20mm grenade launcher kind of answers the question on the effectiveness of that kind of projectile to casting ratio.
Whenever someone says "wheel of death" I think of my angle grinder.
Just watched the nitro episode and the line "its a rental" cracked me up so hard, great stuff!
Yep, the powder charge is way too small. Obviously, use nitroglycerin instead.
Ah, yes. "Breeding" the German defenses.
The size of that gun ahahahahaha 🤣
I love how excited Adam gets in explaining his successes and failures.
How about building a penny farthing.
13:24 No problem, make some nitroglycerin. 😂
I see a nile red collaboration
With bullet that large you don't want that much powder behind it anyway if you want it still to be a handgun. So size of that case looks more than sufficient. Another thing, you would need a closed chamber, not side of the casing sticking out of the cylinder. Or the case itself must be thick enough to contain all the pressure. Anyway, making a comic book universe thing into a real world functioning object is often mission impossible. Just because comic book authors just don't bother with plausibility.
What would be expensive about making nitroglycerin? Except insurance. It requires three very affordable chemicals and some ice, right? Dynamite was dirt cheap back in the day.
Adam, you're such a cool person that we all just wish we could sit and chat with. This is the next best thing. Thank you!
why not use 3 wheels?senterwheel a little smaler and mount the rockets on the senterwheel,then the rockets dont affect steering
One version did have three wheels
I felt like the Panjandrum might have worked better if they'd been able to delay the final test until the ground dried up some. They ended up testing it on, like, the worst possible day.
Some years after this, Someone tries to steal Adam car again and gets shot by a real-life samaritan, fuuuuck!
13:20 ... depends on what "powder" you put in there. Just need to find the right material between a soda can pop noise without physical action and leveling the building. ;)
The British...it must be the rain.... from chicken powered nuke mines to chaotic mine of doom made out of 2 Catherine wheels with a barrel/cylinder looking mine in the middle and about 18 or so rockets.
So, hypothetically, who do we need to bother to get Savage Builds season 2 ok'ed?
in essence, a clutch is just a round brake designed to transfer rotation instead of stopping it, so is there any reason why you wouldn't want to use a clutch instead?
Did you consider using magnetic fields and aluminium discs for breaks?
You should talk to magnum research about the Samaritan they do some crazy revolvers
just to let you know Adam... Savage Builds doesn't appear to be available to UK viewers. I subbed up (currently on a 1 week trial which i will now cancel) to watch savage builds :( Are you able to lean on them in any way to get this viewable outside of the US? I assume people from other countries will have the same issue.
Whoa, whoa, whoa… 10 episodes?
I would use electric magnets like the ones they use to close doors during fire alarms.
I think you could test that bullet by just making a barrel to shoot it from, although be careful that it doesn't become an accidental bomb!
Adam: lovingly shows off gun-shaped, homemade movie prop. FIworld: DEMONITIZED!
Ok, no. How much money to make another panjandrum ...? Take my money.
Wheel of Death - Created by ACME the Leader of Creative Mayhem.
13:25 you would have to make the bullet hollow. we've never seen one fired, who says they aren't?
Demerit bages.... I love it.
Anyone mentioned Dad's Army S5E12 yet?
I would love to see you move away from network television and do a crowd funded webshow. So you have full control over the content you can do. Im sure you could get a lot on sponsors for equipment. Partner with people like Mark Rober, Smarter every day, and stuff made here.
A thought, chaff vs modern cars
I'm no gunsmith, so perhaps I'm wrong, but the other problem I see with the Samaritan is that the cases are not enclosed by the cylinder. It looks neat, but the brass can't contain the explosion by itself - it needs to be braced by a chamber (or cylinder wall) or else the brass just bursts when the powder goes off.
12:25 If you do attempt this, please be aware that the "windows" in the cylinder, which provide a view of the cartridge/chamber, would be catastrophic in a real firearm. The cartridge-case could never withstand the chamber pressure, and would quickly become a "second barrel". So, you'd either need every single cartridge to essentially be it's own chamber, or you'd need to have "faux windows" in the cylinder.. You probably already know this, of course. But it seemed worth saying, just in case. The inventors madness can blind us all to obvious dangers, on occasion.. As to the powder-to-slug ratio, that depends entirely on what you want the round's effective range to be. If you only need it to damage a target across the room, you'd be fine.
If you do get to do a panjandrum again someday, you need heavy vehicle clutches rather than brakes!
Savage Builds was great, wish they'd make another season. The "Iron man" suit was jaw dropping incredible engineering
anyone else expect actual video of the rebuild?
Instead of using brakes, how about you set the wheels up on a triangular stand once you are spun up to the right speed, you push the wheels off the stand, and off they go
I would be concerned that the Wheel of Death might somehow get turned around and head back from where it had come. That reminds me of a Civil War event when the Confederates were moving up the Rio Grande near Valverde New Mexico. One of the Union troopers put explosives on the backs of two mules, lit the fuses, and sent them galloping toward the Confederate forces. The mules reversed course and ran back at the Union soldier who ran for his life. Fortunately for the soldier (unfortunately for the mules) the fuses set off the explosives before the mules overtook him.
Sadly he won’t be able to make that firing Samaritan unless he makes it outside of California
problem with the samaritain is the open sides of the cylinder most of the power would go to expanding or rupturing the case through the open side of the cylinder. i've seen revolvers blow up because the cylinder broke.
i wonder how many calipers were on that wheel
I wonder if it would help on the giant wheel driven by a flywheel to use a planetary gear system with the flywheel on the sun gear, brake on the planet gears and the wheel on the ring gear.
If you make a version of The Samaritan that fires bullets of that size, I advise against firing it free handed. Just thinking about that makes my wrists hurt.
I've really loved understanding your relationship with Jamie, the way you quite obviously have great affection for the man, without particularly liking him.
If you DO go back to the wheel of death project, maybe consider a 'starter' rocket on the main wheel to help get the wheel moving before you activate the flywheel clutches. If I was building it, I'd use something similar in concept to the catapult on an aircraft carrier. Have the wheels 'launched' from a stationary platform that spins it up, and then use the rocket+flywheels to maintain momentum instead of trying to start from a stationary platform.
Missing John Tessier. :(
Weird thought about the Samaritan bullet: what if the bullet itself had been machined out underneath so that the portion that is in contact with the container of powder is shaped into a cone... say... 5 mm deep into the bullet, kind of creating a shaped charge or acting sort of like a rocket nozzle? Am I silly for imagining something like that?
Savage builds was awesome. Come on discovery order some more please.
Whoah, Adam Steltzner did the skycrane on Curiosity? Incredible! So excited to see that insane EDL system work again soon
Yes!! When I saw you building your prop Samaritan, I instantly was wondering... "Hey, how about an actual working version!?!?!?"
Sorry I'm just building this gun in my head now. Steel would be too heavy and to hard to work. How about an aluminum fram with steel inverts for the: chambers, barrel, and breech face?
Just send the rockets.
Savage Builds should have gotten a second season, so should Mythbusters Juniors.
Isn't that flywheel system something like you're the Galactica goes to Faster Than Light in three Battlestar Galactica reboot? They say "spin up the FTL drive" and while the technology is never stated, it's the theory I've heard.
Nitroglycerin is not expensive to make, yes its volatile but when temperature & shock disciplines are strictly observed its fine for short periods of storage, dia-earth stabilises nitro & makes dynamite & is still readily used all over the world today. Alfred Nobel anyone?
So, for nitroglycerin, the problem was, you couldn't get it to explode reliably when you wanted it to, but also couldn't stop it from exploding when you didn't want it to. I think that's the definition of a dangerous substance.
I am not a gunsmith, but I have doubts about the efficacy of the round design for the Samaritan AND the structural design. Again, IANAGS, but the latch mechanism and the grip design seem weak to me, especially if the rounds did what film viewers would expect them to do. It might be one of the few things Hellboy 2019 actually did better. From a structural point. Visually, the original Hellboy film pistol kicks arse.
“Banaca expensive”???
It's actually "Binaca," basically a 'boutique' breath freshener.
I wanna know what this means too! Some googling got me nowhere haha
jamie takes the most direct approach possible to problem solutions most of the time xD, sometimes "too" direct
The panjandrum is the perfect project to do as a crossover with Colin Furze.
I Think a bit of his ego got in my mouth.
Love the automatic subtitles. Pan tantrum, pandemic, pan jan drum.
I guess you never got Dad's Army in the States. One of the best episodes ever. Yup they lost theirs too - it had a life of its own.
Myth Busters on Amazon prime has 3 episodes from series 5 that have audio problems
as seen in the dads army episode " Round and Round Went the Great Big Wheel"
Regarding the bullets for the samaritan. Maybe that cartridge size will work if you use nitro-glycerin as the propellant? :-)
You can replace the conterweight in a trebuchet with a spinning flywheel
Idea for 'Wheels of Death' revisit: how about using rockets and fly wheels. Use just enough rockets to start the wheel and then brake on the fly wheels to maintain speed. Thank you for all the great years of fun!
Measure twice cut once does not matter if you cut your biggest piece first.
The Samaritan build would be fascinating. The propellant to bullet ratio has a bunch of variables however, powder to grains would relate closer to how a M203 grenade launcher lobs a 40mm projectile. I would say, right off, the exposed fluting of the cylinder would prime the handgun to detonate/explode with the chamber pressure of the round being fired. Another variable for the rounds and the cylinder would be the overall recoil; too much and not having crimped your case heads around the bullets will "walk" the bullets lose and forward, locking the cylinder in place. I think it would be prudent to study the physics of a Smith and Wesson 500magnum while firing to have a grasp on what the capability of a functional Samaritan could/would be.
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"It's gonna be fun because I'm doing it" seems like enough of a sales pitch for anybody!
"It'll be fun because I'm doing it" A perfectly reasonable statement; I wouldn't watch many other people just make some shelves...
"White Rabbit" is a show on Netflix so few have seen it MUST be due to it "disappearing in Netflix' own algorithm". 200M pay for Netflix, 1B watch Netflix. I read only 1M had seen the show. It's almost as if N wanted it to go away....
A 55 gallon drum of Bianca = $73,455.36
In regards to power transfer from a flywheel to a static wheel, have you considered a mechanism similar to the clutch on a power press? Some presses have flywheels in excess of 2 or three tons and the clutch can transfer that power to the crank with a rotary key clutch similar to the one in this link: fiworld.info/goon/lmrVmWy8rYVud68/videot.html
Projectile or not, the shell casing would rupture out the giant hole in the cylinder, and injure the operator. That g*n is not feasible as is. As for the projectile itself, working with that ratio of casing, there are such things existing, however, they're hollow, and much of the powder is within the bullet's hollow nest. That, and of course the high power shotg*n shells.
Every time I see the samaritan, I wish it was a firing sample, because it's so close to perfection. Adam should make it fire .410 shells, which are lower power, yet can be placed inside a larger shell to make it look more prop-authentic.
Our chemistry teacher, had been an employee at a factory that used to produce NG. And one of the stories she told us about said compound, was that the thing was so, so, so unreliable and so unpredictable, that one time, in the middle of a test that involved droplet sized quantities, 4 out of 10 charges from the same batch (yeah, same batch) did not reach purpose. There's a reason that stuff is universally loathed and it's not just urban mythos, there's a big truth to it.
I would love to see you make a functioning gun. It´s so much more difficult because now there are extreme pressures (explosions) to be handled. It´s also a whole new field for you to explore with exakt timing of the cylinder (extremely difficult to make reliable), rifling the barrel etc. Unfortunately you live in california with abysmal gun-laws so you need to talk to a very good lawyer to make sure you dont end up in prison for that. FIworld also does not allow anyone to show how a firearm is actually made. I would totally watch it if you put it up somewhere else though.
Can some one of the patreons ask Adam: Did he watched "Epic Rap Battles of History: Ghostbusters vs Mythbusters", and what was his reaction? take 3
Here you go: twitter.com/donttrythis/status/531883784367775744?lang=en
To be honest: Isn't "Doing the same thing over and over, just raising the stakes every time" EXACTLY what Mythbusters did in every episode? It fells like every episode ended in you blowing stuff into pieces just because you could.... Cement truck? Electromagnetic Turkey? I always thought the most interesting experiments were the ones without explosions! (Except Magic Pyramid...)
whoa, does that mean adam's gonna try and be a gunsmith? exciting stuff for sure, but i dunno how much youtube would like adam mucking about with firearms.
I wonder if you could make the back of the bullet hollow to give room for more power and less mass whilst still maintaining the original look.
So, the thumbnail gives a hint at what you built for the wheel of death, but it would've been great if some screenshots could've been included in the video.
They tested the panjandrum in 1943 and 1944. Neither tests were successful as it kept going out of control so the idea was scrapped and never used in combat